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认为Solaris免费的看过来,睁开你的慧眼好好看一看 [复制链接]

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发表于 2010-02-25 15:27 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 wuqing 于 2010-02-25 16:23 编辑

认为Solaris不要钱的请仔细学习和研究一下Solaris的许可。

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17

Solaris 10 Download Customers
Obtaining an Entitlement Document is simple. On the Solaris 10 Get It page, select the platform and format you desire from the drop-down menus, and then click the Download Solaris 10 button. When you arrive at the Sun Download Center, either sign in or register, ensuring that a valid e-mail address is part of your Sun Download Center account to receive the Entitlement Document. Fill out the Solaris download survey, specifying the number of systems on which you are installing the software. Once you have completed the survey, you will be redirected to the Solaris 10 download page for downloading, and your Entitlement Document will be sent to your registered e-mail address. Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software.

请问,你们填写完调查信息后,有几个人收到过SUN的PDF的授权文档?(我原来收到过,可以安装100台SPARC服务器,和100台X86_64服务器,可惜那封邮件后来不知道哪里去了)
如果红色字体部分看不懂,请找你们公司的律师。

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/licensing/sla.xml
Solaris操作系统的许可协议中写得非常清楚授权使用的场景,请问你真的按照这些要求在使用吗?
3. Permitted Use.

As selected in your Entitlement, one or more of the following Permitted Uses will apply to your use of Software. Unless you have an Entitlement that expressly permits it, you may not use Software for any of the other Permitted Uses. If you don't have an Entitlement, or if y our Entitlement doesn't cover additional software delivered to you, then such software is for your Evaluation Use.

(a) Evaluation Use. You may evaluate Software internally for a period of 90 days from your first use.

(b) Research and Instructional Use. You may use Software internally to design, develop and test, and also to provide instruction on such uses.

(c) Individual Use. You may use Software internally for personal, individual use.

(d) Commercial Use. You may use Software internally for your own commercial purposes.

(e) Service Provider Use. You may make Software functionality accessible (but not by providing Software itself or through outsourcing services) to your end users in an extranet deployment, but not to your affiliated companies or to government agencies.

所以Solaris的商业使用是一定需要钱的,其他应用场景只有在不需要补丁不需要安全的情况下才是不需要钱的。
1、安装媒介需要花钱,$30美元(http://globalspecials.sun.com/st ... productID.140434200),如果是下载的请一定要确保你有SUN的授权PDF文档;
2、服务要钱,$324美元起(http://globalspecials.sun.com/st ... productID.140431600);
3、如果你是下载的并且有SUN的授权PDF文档,那么你无权下载和安装补丁,否则依然需要花钱。
4、不花钱又能保证业务连续性(主要是安全)的一定是盗版,是违反SUN的license的。

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发表于 2010-02-25 15:30 |显示全部楼层
你花了$30美元购买了Solaris安装媒介,是否就不需要付费了?错了!还是在http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17,还是需要注册并获得授权文档。
Solaris 10 Registration Process for Non-Download Customers
If you obtained Solaris 10 by means other than a download or are installing Solaris 10 on systems that have not yet been registered, you must still register to receive an Entitlement Document that gives you the right to use the software past the 90-day evaluation period and for commercial purposes. Follow the same process described above for download customers. After completing the download survey, you will be redirected to the Solaris 10 download page for downloading. Simply forego downloading; your Entitlement Document will be sent to your registered e-mail address.

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发表于 2010-02-25 16:06 |显示全部楼层
我2月在真机上下载了X86的solaris10,看看90天后会有什么反应!
Cc3415728 发表于 2010-02-25 15:42


license是两个层面的东西,技术上的和法律上的。

Solaris并没有在技术上做任何限制,安装过程中也不需要输入序列号(从Solaris诞生起就从来没有序列号一说,虽然Solaris在SPARC平台的应用程序总喜欢拿hostid作为授权的参考,但实际上SPARC平台的Solaris在安装时也是没有序列号一说的),你没有注册,如果使用场景又不符合许可文件中规定的要求,那么实质上你就是侵权,人家就可以拿起法律武器保护自己的权利。

这点和Oracle一样,你现在Oracle的安装媒介,在你的机器上安装了,学习和研究,符合OTN的许可,可以不用付费;但是同样的安装媒介,你安装在产品系统上商用。在技术上是没有限制的,也是可以正常使用的,当然了,你无法从Oracle获取补丁。你的这种非法商用行为一旦被Oracle知道,人家一起诉,你就等着赔钱吧。
同样的,微软的产品,有技术上的限制,也有法律上的要求,但是你通过获取一个序列号,非法使用Windows,那么依然是软件生产商可以起诉你。

很多人分不清license的技术上和法律上要求的两面,以为是一回事;或者是知道了也不遵守,最终是害人终害己啊。

因此现在就可以清楚地告诉你,90天以后你的计算机在技术层面不会发生任何变化,它和今天的区别唯一的就是90天以后如果你的计算机使用用途不当,而且刚好Oracle又拿到相关证据、并且刚好你这个公司又值得起诉,那么就可能会被Oracle公司起诉。当然了,由于实际情况也是比较复杂的,依然只是存在起诉的可能而已。

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发表于 2010-02-25 16:38 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 洋芋环 于 2010-02-25 16:47 编辑
认为Solaris不要钱的请仔细学习和研究一下Solaris的许可。



Solaris 10 Download Customers
Obtaini ...
wuqing 发表于 2010-02-25 15:27



  我把那个邮件找到了

  

Thank you for registering your Solaris 10 systems. This is your entitlement document. This document is your proof of license for Solaris 10; please print it and keep it in a safe place. You can also view translated versions of a generic entitlement document.

If you change the systems on which you have Solaris 10 installed, you must update your registration. The entitlement only provides rights to use Solaris on registered systems.

THIS ENTITLEMENT EVIDENCES YOUR AUTHORIZED SCOPE OF USE UNDER THE TERMS OF THE SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE SUN SOFTWARE INDICATED BELOW (THE SLA) UNLESS OTHERWISE AGREED IN WRITING BETWEEN YOU AND SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. (SUN). Capitalized terms not defined in this document have the meanings ascribed to them in the SLA. These terms will supersede any inconsistent or conflicting terms in the SLA.

Licensee/Company: 洋芋环
Beginning Date of License Term: 11-JAN-2009 12:43:56 PM
Solaris 10 Operating System, 3/05, 1/06, 6/06, 11/06, 8/07, 5/08, 10/08, 5/09, & 10/09 update releases
Permitted Use: You may use Solaris only in one of the following ways: (1) if you have obtained a system from Sun or one of Sun’s partners that includes a license for Solaris, you have a perpetual right under that license to use only the version that was installed on the system (no right to use updates, or upgrades to Solaris is included unless you acquire a service plan that includes this right); or (2) under a valid, existing license for Solaris and properly acquired Sun service plan that includes rights to updates or upgrades to Solaris; or (3) under the trial use terms below to which you must agree before downloading Solaris.
License Term: Perpetual (subject to termination under the SLA)
Licensed Unit: Registered Computer System

Additional Terms:

1.0 License to Develop. You are authorized to develop software programs utilizing Software. If you desire to develop software programs which incorporate portions of Software (“Developed Programs”), the following provisions apply:
(i) you may not modify or add to application programming interfaces associated with Software;
(ii) you are not licensed to use fonts within Software to develop printing applications unless you have secured valid licenses from the appropriate font suppliers;
(iii) incorporation of portions of Motif in Developed Programs may require reporting of copies of Developed Programs to Sun; and
(iv) you will indemnify and defend Sun and its licensors from any claims, including attorneys’ fees, which arise from or relate to distribution or use of Developed Programs to the extent these claims arise from or relate to the development performed by you. This Section 1.0 does not apply to the Sun GlassFish Enterprise Server, Sun GlassFish Message Queue (formerly known as Sun Java System Message Queue), Sun Directory Server, and Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition (“J2SE”) included in or bundled with the Software. In addition, J2SE that is included in or bundled with the Software is subject to the Sun Software License Agreement and the free use Entitlement for the Java Standard Edition Development Kit found in the /usr/java/ directory, which contains, among other things, use limitations for J2SE in embedded applications.

2.0 No Diagnostic, Maintenance, Repair or Technical Support Services. The scope of Your license does not include any right, express or implied,
(i) to access, copy, distribute, display or use the Software to provide diagnostic, maintenance, repair or technical support services for Sun software or Sun hardware on behalf of any third party for Your direct or indirect commercial gain or advantage, without Sun’s prior written authorization, or
(ii) for any third party to access, copy, distribute, display or use the Software to provide diagnostic, maintenance, repair or technical support services for Sun software or Sun hardware on Your behalf for such party’s direct or indirect commercial gain or advantage, without Sun’s prior written authorization. The limitations set forth in this paragraph apply to any and all error corrections, patches, updates, and upgrades to the Software You may receive, access, download or otherwise obtain from Sun.

3.0 Records and Documentation. During the term of the SLA and Entitlement, and for a period of three (3) years thereafter, You agree to keep proper records and documentation of Your compliance with the SLA and Entitlement. Upon Sun’s reasonable request, You will provide copies of such records and documentation to Sun for the purpose of confirming Your compliance with the terms and conditions of the SLA and Entitlement. This section will survive any termination of the SLA and Entitlement. You may terminate this SLA and Entitlement at any time by destroying all copies of the Software in which case the obligations set forth in Section 7 of the SLA shall apply.



有个翻译了的中文版

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发表于 2010-02-25 16:40 |显示全部楼层
Free Solaris Program
Membership Activated
Welcome to the Free Solaris Program! We have verified your email address and you have been granted access to the program. Please click on the links below for more information:

Solaris 10 Overview and Home Page

Download and Installation Self Help and FAQs

Solaris 10 Overview FAQs

Solaris 10 Product Feature FAQs

Learning Centers

Support and Training

BigAdmin Community and Portal for System Administrators

BigAdmin Newsletter

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发表于 2010-02-25 16:51 |显示全部楼层
Permitted Use: You may use Solaris only in one of the following ways:
(1) if you have obtained a system from Sun or one of Sun’s partners that includes a license for Solaris, you have a perpetual right under that license to use only the version that was installed on the system (no right to use updates, or upgrades to Solaris is included unless you acquire a service plan that includes this right); or
(2) under a valid, existing license for Solaris and properly acquired Sun service plan that includes rights to updates or upgrades to Solaris; or
(3) under the trial use terms below to which you must agree before downloading Solaris.

License Term: Perpetual (subject to termination under the SLA)
Licensed Unit: Registered Computer System
洋芋环 发表于 2010-02-25 16:38

你把这一部分内容仔细看看就知道Solaris厂商也就是原来的SUN到底授权你可以做什么和不可以做什么了,理解理解这些红色字体标注的词语的修饰和限制,就可以深刻理解到底是否需要钱,到底是否如很多人所想象的那样免费了。

想要你的Solaris系统安全吗?想要补丁吗?想升级吗?

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发表于 2010-02-25 16:52 |显示全部楼层
Free Solaris Program
Membership Activated
Welcome to the Free Solaris Program! We have verified yo ...
洋芋环 发表于 2010-02-25 16:40


Free是免费的意思吗?
免费是Free的意思吗?

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发表于 2010-02-25 16:57 |显示全部楼层
你把这一部分内容仔细看看就知道Solaris厂商也就是原来的SUN到底授权你可以做什么和不可以做什么了,理解 ...
wuqing 发表于 2010-02-25 16:51



只是贴出来,以前没认真看过

说实话,这东西看的头大

新装系统以后,用我的账号进行注册,可以联网自动升级,这个到底什么意思?是所有的账号都可以这样,还是我的账号已经有授权?

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发表于 2010-02-25 17:05 |显示全部楼层
还想请教一下楼主,为什么你得到的是有数量限制的授权,我的确没有数量和时间限制呢

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发表于 2010-02-25 17:05 |显示全部楼层
只是贴出来,以前没认真看过

说实话,这东西看的头大

新装系统以后,用我的账号进行注册,可以 ...
洋芋环 发表于 2010-02-25 16:57


这些内容一般稍微正规点的公司都是交给律师看,一段一段,一句一句,逐词逐字地审核才可以的。

注册以后是可以更新的,不过只包含安全的部分补丁,不是所有。
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